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I can press the button whenever I want, whenever it feels right. I don't tend to look at the competition that much. Like I really look at, you know, what can we do uniquely well and what are our values and like, you know, how do we maximally accelerate towards that? You know, maybe a year or two these speeds will become, you know, maybe if not the default, like very close to the default. And you look at the cost of Luna, right? It's phenomenal. Technology has a way to become like, you know, very, very efficient over time. We're very focused on like, you know, very broad access and we're optimizing for, you know, the utility that you get out of it directly.
I heard there's an actual physical button now. Yes, Deris. I will show it to you. It's like very very cool.
Tibo, thank you so much for joining me. Of course. Yeah, glad to be here. Yes, really excited to talk to you. I want to actually start with your time at Google. So you were on the deep mind team and before chat GPT Google had something called LM chat and you had tweeted uh Google was too nervous to release it. Deep mind was blocked from shipping products that could disrupt Google and I think about that a lot.
What were you thinking at that time while you were working on these products that was you know well before uh chat GPT really changed the world. Yeah it was a very exciting time. So um deep mind was a very creative place. I was mostly focused on um my specialty was infrastructure and products for to accelerate research. And so there was there was obviously a group working on language models uh and scaling that. And then they had like gotten pretty good results and then it was like a natural thing to think about hey you know can you turn that into something that you know you can chat to and you know can use um you know for various things. And so then naturally like the idea of like something like LM chat sort of emerges um and then it was internal and then there was sort of this ambition to um make it into a publicly available uh tool.
What year was this? And this was it was like a year before Chhatra roughly. Okay.